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Thought Experiment 23: The Beetle In The Box

8/24/2015

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It doesn't matter what's in here, does it?
Last week's thought experiment tried to get us to consider real world problems of poverty and what to do about it. This week, it's all about abstractions as we move on to the kind of language problem popular in the current dominant school of analytic philosophy.

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     "Ludwig and Bertie were two precocious little tykes. Like many children, they played games with their own private languages. One of their favourites, which mystified the adults around them, was called 'Beetle'.
     It started one day when they found two boxes. Ludwig proposed that they took one each, and that each would only ever look inside his own box, not that of the other. What is more, he would never describe what was in his box or compare it to anything outside the box. Rather, each would simply name the contents of his box 'beetle'.
     For some reason, this amused them greatly. Each would proudly say that he had a beetle in his box, but whenever someone asked them to explain what this beetle was, they refused. For all anyone knew, either or both boxes were empty, or each contained very different things. Nonetheless, they insisted on using the word 'beetle' to refer to the contents of their boxes and acted as though the word had a perfectly reasonable use in their game. This was unsettling, especially for grown ups. Was 'beetle' a nonsense word or did it have a private meaning that only the boys knew?

Baggini, J., The Pig That Wants to Be Eaten, 2005, p. 67.
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At first glance, this hardly even seems to be a thought experiment, so I'd better add more from Baggini's explanation to show you why philosopher's concern themselves with such things. He says:

...all language use is a kind of game, in that it relies upon a combination of rules and conventions, not all of which can be explicitly stated, and which only players of the game really understand. ... Consider what happens when I say, "I have a pain in my knee." The box in this case is my inner experience. As with Ludwig and Bertie's containers, no one else can look inside it; only I can. ... All of the vocabulary of pain refers to sensations, and all of these are inside the boxes of our own subjective experience. ... For all we know, when we both say we are feeling pain, what is going on inside me is quite different from what is going on inside you.

What do you think? Have Ludwig and Bertie shown you our shared vocabularies aren't all that shared?
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Atthatmatt link
8/24/2015 11:06:04 am

But...we constantly try to describe our beetle and when that fails we always try to compare it to something in the world. The adults are only in the dark with regards to the contents of the box (what's in the box?!?) because the kids arbitrarily decided not to describe it. I don't get how this is a thought experiment.

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@EdGibney link
8/25/2015 02:15:01 am

To be honest, I'm not so impressed by this one either, but I have promised myself to go through all of these in Baggini's book. The idea does come from Wittgenstein, who regularly gets touted as one of the greatest philosophers of the 20th century, but I think this experiment mostly illustrates the silly knots that analytical philosophers tie themselves up in when trying to parse language. If it helps at all, Baggini also had this to say:

"The question Wittgenstein invites us to ask is: does the word 'beetle' refer to anything? And if it doesn't, what does it mean? Although the passage in which he discusses the beetle has endless interpretations, it seems clear that Wittgenstein believes that what is in the box makes no difference to how the word is used. So whatever the word means, if anything, the actual contents of the box have nothing to do with it."

This makes the rest of the discussion sliiiiightly more interesting as it attempts to free the word from the physical world, thus allowing for some sort of idealistic dualism. But I'm sure I'll argue against that on Friday when I dispatch this quickly....

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