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Thought Experiment 100: The Nest Café

7/17/2017

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Who's he going to buy cheap food from?
Well, here we are—the final thought experiment! After deeply considering 99 entries from Julian Baggini's book that asked us what we are, what we know, what is good, and many other pointed inquiries from the philosophical canon, we may have begun to feel a little comfortable that we know how to go about conducting our lives. Like all good philosophers though, Baggini tries one last time to upend that comfort before we go our separate ways.

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     Eric was a regular at the Nest café. The quality of the food and drink was unexceptional, but they were remarkably cheap.
     One day he asked the manager how she did it. She leaned over and whispered, conspiratorially, "Easy. You see, all my staff are from Africa. They need to survive but can't get regular jobs. So I let them sleep in the cellar, feed them just enough, and give them £5 cash a week. It's great—they work all day, six days a week. With my wage bill so low, I can offer low prices and make handsome profits.
     "Don't look so shocked," she continued, reading his reaction. "This suits everyone. They choose to work here because it helps them, I make money, and you get a bargain. Top up?"
     Eric accepted. But perhaps this would be his last coffee here. Despite the manager's justification, he felt, as a customer, he would be complicit in exploitation. As he sipped his americano, however, he wondered if the staff would appreciate his boycott. Weren't these jobs and the shelter of the cellar better than nothing?

Baggini, J., The Pig That Wants to Be Eaten, 2005, p. 298.
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Lest you consider this too narrowly, here are some further thoughts about this experiment by Baggini:

You don't have to be a militant anti-capitalist to recognise that everyone who lives in a developed country is essentially in the same position as Eric. We import comparatively cheap goods because those producing them work for a pittance. And if we know this yet carry on buying, we are helping to maintain the situation. Do not be fooled by the superficial differences. Eric is closer to the cheap labour than we are, but geographical proximity is not ethically significant in this case. You don't cease to exploit someone simply by putting miles between you. Nor is the illegality of the café staff the issue. Simply imagine a country where such employment practices are permitted. ... If Eric is wrong to help feather the Nest, we are wrong to buy from businesses that treat the people at the other end of their supply chains in the same way. This is a very troubling conclusion, for it makes almost every one of us complicit in exploitation.

Ouch. What do you think? Are we global capitalists living in another era that future civilisations will look back on in horror? If not, why? If so, what should you do about it? I'll be back on Friday with my own comments on this final problem.
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Disagreeable Me
7/17/2017 11:23:05 am

It's a tricky one, again.

On the one hand, I think it's not realistic to expect workers in developing countries to be paid a salary equivalent to what a worker in the west would get -- otherwise the jobs simply wouldn't be outsourced there and they would have no work at all.

But on the other hand, there's no need for them to be paid as little as possible either. If people were unwilling or unable to buy goods manufactured by people who could barely afford to survive, then there would be an incentive to pay a little extra, and so a boycott of manufacturers who pay too little would make sense.

I think it's too hard for individual consumers to research and monitor the provenance of goods they buy, so I think the right thing to do may be to elect officials who will instate bodies to apply regulatory solutions, e.g. perhaps levying punitive import duty on goods originating in exploitative factories. As long as there are still plenty of people ignoring the boycott then I don't see that the boycott does any good -- it may even do harm by reducing the amount of work available in developing countries.

So I'm not sure what the best solution is, but relying on the choices of individual consumers seems to me to be completely impractical.

I feel the same way about animal welfare in the meat and dairy industries. I would vote to support legislation to promote animal welfare before I would spend time researching where I bought my meat. And any such legislation would have to impose tarrifs on imports from countries without similar legislation.

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Chuck Schneider
7/21/2017 03:54:09 pm

" Like the guy on our local TV news every night, " Don,t waste your money". Of course, every ethical humanist / EvolPhil person has some obligation to resist human exploitation.
If you really like the restaurant, just leave very large tips to the exploited staff. If that doesn't solve your conscience, be sure to inform the owner / managers why you will stop going there.
One of the proper things we expect form our modern governments are rules that prohibit exploitation. Minimum wages, safe working environments, child labor laws, quality products, etc. these "Restrictions" on free markets tend to raise all boats. Without these restrictions, good ethical merchants are forced into the lowest common denominator. When governments do not do their jobs, we end up with unions, and if unions are restricted, eventual violence.
Tie in in to Evolve Phil ? Society should be structured so that the largest number of people have the opportunity to develop their talents. Somewhat akin to Rohr,s philosophy.

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